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Talking Immigration and Economics with Destiny

by Sargon of Akkad Live

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Published 17 Mar 2017

Category News & Politics

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@TheRumpusGumperts7 years ago Destiny: makes bullshit point
Sargon: Disproves argument
Destiny: Talks faster and louder 822
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@0rurin7 years ago "Slavery happens naturally." - Destiny, 2017 94
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@DeAardappel7 years ago Fuck me running, Sargon has the patience of a fucking saint. That has to be one of the most frustrating things I have ever listened to. 80
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@MrAhriman427 years ago The construction worker bit really put the nail in the coffin for me. I'm very much middle class, and even I managed to understand Sargon on that subject. 46
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@08animefan7 years ago I want cheaper goods made in foreign countries but I don"t want the companies to leave.
-Destiny 114
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@megakillerx7 years ago >Calls himself a capitalist
>Advocates for redistribution for Women and Minorites.
Topkek. 319
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@Saboteur47 years ago It takes Sargon an hour before he can't stand destiny. It took me five seconds. 44
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@mr.fetching22677 years ago
Sargon: "Are you telling me that a person's standard of living is judged by whether they can afford an iPhone or not?"
Destiny: "Thats only because you have no idea what it is to live without this!"
omfg, this is the best video on youtube ... 187
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@uncouthboy80287 years ago Destiny: No one should be a coal miner, soldier, or work in construction.
Does he not realize that some people enjoy these jobs? That's completely ignoring the practical side. Sorry bro, not everyone can be a professional streamer. ... 514
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@autismisuncontrollable49257 years ago As an evolutionary psychologist, its fucking incredible to listen to someone that thinks that the average woman would enjoy engineering or construction. Its fucking astounding. 209
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@IAmMyOwnApprentice7 years ago Sargon and the self-righteous honking goose. 45
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@The-ph6jf7 years ago Completely explains arguments perfectly
"You're not arguing in good faith" 294
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@toomuchmidi7 years ago Destiny is deadass the kind of nigga that wants to give a starving kid an iPhone 7 Plus and wants to be given props for doing so. 89
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@grimjim6667 years ago If you work in construction you should be ashamed and look up to the middle class's. - Destiny 2017 280
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@Eli-nt9lg7 years ago i ( white cis 19yr old) live with my mom who is an assistant manager at the local grocery store and i too now have a job at this store, but we are very working class, and at the high school i go to (texas) they r building on to the building (new gym, cafeteria, ect.) and when i go to school and see these men building these things it make me think of men who are not afraid of getting their hands dirty and getting the tough job done, at the benefit of themselves who are employed, the economy, future generations, and my local infrastructure, which to me seems like a very "noble" thing. something spoiled destiny wouldn't know about. ... 30
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@Guesswhat877 years ago Sargon "i like pepsi"
Destiny "so why do you hate coke" 290
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@badumtsst25527 years ago Sargon completely destroyed Destiny. I'm surprised that Sargon has gotten this good at debating.
Destiny was trying to trap you, put words in your mouth, be it intentionally or not, and you wouldn't allow him, and you could tell he was getting frustrated that Sargon was quick on the ball enough to counter it. ... 583
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@cwilliams68847 years ago Limiting immigration isn't protectionist, it is the default. If immigration was unlimited, you wouldn't have a sovereign country in the first place. 279
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@evilmar23637 years ago Sargon: Donald trump
Destiny: Triggered 80
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@tomsimcox50666 years ago The saddest thing is Destiny genuinely believes he won, and even said Sargon wasn’t very intelligent. Delusional... 109
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@julianlondon30217 years ago "What do you mean by a Mexican shanty town?"
"A shanty town filled with Mexicans" 423
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@Dappis7 years ago Jontron is not racist
For fucks sake 199
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@TheNinjaSasquatch57 years ago Destiny starts to lose point,
Autisticlly speaks faster 171
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@sharktanks7 years ago The image that this gives me is Carl violently skull fucking Steve. 16
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@Fergit_7 years ago Are we done with this joke of a human now?
It's been a fun week but it's time to move on. 87
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@UndoomedOne7 years ago My god! This guy needs to change his name to Density, that's how dense he is!!
On people being so poor they have a problem making rent: "Well, we don't have that problem here in U.S." -Density 2017
Meanwhile we have half a fucking million homeless people in the U.S.!!!!!
But sure, Density, let's invite some more people over. ~~facepalm~~ ... 874
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@shadow-monger51897 years ago I always find it disappointing when people my age talk about how void their life would be without their smartphones. It's the saddest thing I have ever heard. 60
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@MegaRazor6197 years ago Christ, I'm retarded and I think I know a little bit more about how the economy runs than destiny. What a one side slaughter. 13
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@Tezshpariel7 years ago "You want businesses to rise and fall of there of their own volition, without any government intervention, and you think that's Free Market? That's Communism!"
-Literally, Destiny 2017 890
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@degreesoffreedom23217 years ago "A small percentage of people don't benefit!"
The guy talks as if the working class is only one percent of the population. He also has obviously never known what it is like to have any sort of economic stress in your life. ... 147
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@vincetyler84167 years ago Each time he calls you "dawg" it gets better and better X) 17
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@werewolf8735 years ago I love that i have to scroll through 6 destiny damage control responses to this debate before i can get to the actual debate 5
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@blakegressen92607 years ago Why does destiny hate the working class? 567
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@redfoxreturns41297 years ago I trained as a cook and got replaced and displaced by TFW (temporary foreign workers) my wage fell from $14.5 to $8 over 10 years and lost my job Destiny now they say raise the minimum wage to $15. what good is that when I have not a job Destiny you F*CKER. Love from Canada ... 115
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@eyesore25677 years ago Refreshing to hear someone say i don't know when they really don't know instead of pulling stuff from thin air, props to sargon 11
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@spac3dandy2067 years ago I don't think we are going to agree on this.
I don't think we are going to agree on this.
I don't think we are going to agree on this.
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I don't think we are going to agree on this.
I don't think we are going to agree on this.
I don't think we are going to agree on this. ... 25
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@Dadge427 years ago This man bases his economic beliefs on Starcraft. 822
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@blizzardregulus7 years ago "Intent doesn't matter in law" -Destiny not knowing the difference between manslaughter and murder. 408
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@gabe80316 years ago Sargon won this debate when density said "you aren't arguing in good faith" 32
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@peterhaselwood38347 years ago "Nobody looks at these jobs as a position of nobility" ... I'm a white British bricklayer and take immense pride in the fact I build houses for people to call home..... Destiny is one condescending prick!! Thank you sargon.... Though my arse crack isn't always showing ;-) ... 135
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@LightOfDarknes17 years ago I didn't know rape was allowed in youtube. Praise kek. 182
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@Oksobasically27 years ago Destiny is like everyone else has said, out of touch with the everyday average American. I'm a blue collar worker, I rewind electrical motors and fix them for a living, basically a motor electrician. I have immense pride in my work because I know that without my work your car wouldn't start and run continuously (alternator) and your turbine that produces power for the community wouldn't work. There is much to be proud of and much incentive to work in blue collar work. It's not this peasant class thing that we do out of necessity. We choose this most of the time. It fascinates us to work on cars or build houses or repair motors. Destiny just ignores entire swaths of people to make his argument fit reality. ... 316
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@ipo7327 years ago "Even in law the intent is irrelevant." In law the intent is one of the
most important pieces. It is what distinguishes punishment, such as the
degree of murder. In some cases, it even decides whether a crime was
committed or whether someone can be sued or not for a certain action.
Just thought I'd point that out. It was stated somewhere around the 48-49
minute mark. As someone whom wishes to go into law, and has taken
courses both in the collegiate and secondary school levels on the basics
of the legal field, this is one of the first things you learn. It's
called "mens rea." ... 135
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@I3asher7 years ago >when you empathize with contstruction workers bcause you were a carpet cleaner for a year
My sides just went on an all-expense-paid trip to the Bahamas.
He's so middle class and sheltered lmao. 305
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@insertoyouroemail7 years ago This Destiny guy doesn't seem to have much room for nuance in his model of reality.
Sargon: "The sun contributes to the tides."
Destiny: "So you're saying the moon doesn't contribute massively to the tides?"
Sargon: "Sure it is."
Destiny: "So you're saying the sun doesn't contribute at all to the tides?"
Sargon: "The sky is blue."
Destiny: "Why is the sky blue?"
Sargon: "I don't know."
Destiny: "You have to tell me why."
Sargon: "But I don't know why."
Destiny: "You have to tell me why."
Sargon: "Well, we'd have to find out by studying the sky."
Destiny: "We can't do that. That is impractical. You're not arguing in good faith." ... 1335
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@AlexRie19877 years ago the fact destiny thinks the standard of living is measured by consumer electronics and specifically the iPhone should ban him from entering conversations with adults. 161
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@Dominator56093 years ago Sargon absolutely won the construction argument. You can go to college and get degrees that allow you to operate higher class machinery that make you more money. People absolutely look forward to being a construction worker. ... 3
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@chakatBombshell7 years ago Sargon: Okay lets have a conversation.
Destiny: REEEEEE! 7
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@godwings1017 years ago "Leave them poor and oppressed, they have an iPhone. 83
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@AgeofAge7 years ago "Slavery is good for the economy" - Destiny 2017 142
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@enickma9107 years ago "Excuse me sir! But I do believe you've dropped your wallet."
"Doesn't look familiar to me."
"What? I just saw you drop it. Here."
"Nope, it's not mine."
"Aren't you Patrick Star?"
"Yup."
"And this is your ID?"
"Yup"
"I found this ID in this wallet. And if that's the case, then it must be your wallet."
"Makes sense to me"
"Then take it."
"It's not my wallet."
This debate in a nutshell ... 186
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@BigNastyRamon7 years ago "I don't think we're ever gonna agree on this." 15
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@user-bo1sl7gs9x7 years ago "Slavery 👏was👏 a👏 net👏 benefit👏 to the 👏economy "
yeah but what if there's a way to free the slaves afterwards
"better to not enslave them in the first place"
At this point Destiny realised,...he fucked up. ... 101
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@TheAngryBogan7 years ago Was hungry earlier, got myself a bowl of iPhones, poured some internet over it. All good. 203
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@PRBoricua237 years ago Boy, this X-file debate is riveting... 16
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@stevenobrien76867 years ago Hearing this manlet exclaim "DAWG!" Is the funniest thing I've heard in awhile. 33
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@jeffhut92517 years ago I am poor and in construction. i am proud of what i do. 275
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@pauldiezel45847 years ago This was like Destiny beating up the little kid who means well (Jontron) and then standing over and laughing at him then Sargon coming in and suplexing him. 797
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@macgawain36457 years ago "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" -Destiny 233
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@Ultra_Light_Beam7 years ago I love this conversation. Listened to it three times now. It doesn't get old. 11
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@cipher15007 years ago Destiny presumes WAY too much. It is so egregious he even manages to put words into Sargon's mouth with almost every sentence. The last 20 minutes was a beautiful meltdown. Top kek. 186
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@legoluvver7 years ago >it hard to stay married when you're poor
>throw in the introduction of no-fault divorce
>fatherlessness ensues 37
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@cosmicaverage39867 years ago I wanted to be a construction worker. 27
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@BigCoagulatedGravyHotDog6 years ago sargon wiped the floor with this whiny manlet 14
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@hh-ck6ko7 years ago Destiny's way of arguing is talking really fast and hope nobody notices his strawman arguments and outright lies. Doesn't work on Sargon. Take a drink every time Sargon says "that's not what i said". That's just my first impression/ ... 267
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@FleeingSnake7 years ago THIS FUCKER JUST COMPARED THE TRADE I PUT FOUR YEARS OF EDUCATION INTO AS A CARPET CLEARER. I'm speechless. 57
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@cortalectin7 years ago Wow, I've been listening to Sargon for years and I've never realized how crazy brilliant he is. As much as I hate Destiny I wouldn't want to debate him, but by God Sargon is positively smoking his ass. 48
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@elenorbydesign74567 years ago Holy shit, that was intense. I don't think I would have been able to keep my cool like Sargon. I would have flipped out if someone continued to yell at me like that for simply disagreeing. Also Destiny's opinions are baseless. How can someone be so violently allergic to reason? ... 105
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@monocatz7 years ago All Destiny is doing is like "you don't fully agree it is this way, so you must think it is completely the other way" 161
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@mateokostar40867 years ago I.... I thought people were joking about the autism thing, but now I'm beginning to seriously wonder. Every five minutes they have to stop and Sargon has to repeat himself because Destiny can't seem to wrap his mind around the idea that life isn't black and white, and he seems to remember things that occurred mere moments ago completely different to how they happened. ... 103
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@imyournewstepdad7 years ago God he's so collectivist it's actually scary. Less than 20 minutes in and he's made it strikingly clear that he can't view people as anything other than a part of a herd. I also love how he will address and admit to physical differences between men and women, but ignore decades of research indicating that men and women function differently on a mental level, to the point where each sex has ares of academia that they dominate based on their mental predispositions. ... 124
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@dustincieslik53977 years ago I rewatch this stream when I feel like my life is meh and always realize it could be worse I could be destiny 65
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@TruckerJenkins827 years ago Hey Destiny, you do not understand the immense pride that a man or woman can take in creating something with their hands. From the carpenter to cabinet maker from the bricklayer to the stonemason from the potter to the welder. In every single trade, there is art, passion, kinetic ability, stoicism, graft, patience, resolve, efficiency, experiment and invention. People devote their lives to the enrichment a trade can bring. Many people in fact go through school dreaming of being a successful tradesman. They are respected in their communities, earn a comfortable living, generally work sociable hours and are the recipients of persistent job satisfaction. I hate it when folk look down upon and turn their noses up to the trade industry. ... 229
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@errflow7 years ago Given the circumstances, Sargon was a paragon of composure. The levels of restraint he showed are inspiring.
Cheers. 386
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@Camkitsune7 years ago
"I think that a large contributing factor to the issue of crime in black communities is fatherlessness."
"Why?"
"I don't know."
"Oh, come on, say something racist so I can win by default, come on!"
"No, I don't know why. The why is irrelevant to what I'm trying to establish, which is that poverty causes crime."
"YOU AREN'T ARGUING IN GOOD FAITH."
I think the ensuing reaction made the previous hour's worth of disingenuous bullshit worth sitting through. Cathartic as fuck. ... 40
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@noah47077 years ago How to be destiny:
-talk fast as fuck and hope people don't catch the flaws in the bullshit you're spewing
-constantly try to paint people into corners whenever possible 169
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@TheMitso7 years ago "Even in law the intent is irrelevant"
-Destiny
There you have it folks! Write that in your law PhD, success guaranteed! 64
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@johndoe-rm7sv7 years ago I was a poor white kid and I thought being a construction worker was romantic AF XD 30
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@russelld29257 years ago "If it's a net growth to the economy..." why can't we just oppress a segment of the society?
"Slavery was a net growth to the economy."
Best line ever. 1
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@SAVikingSA7 years ago My favorite part was when Destiny called the highway system in the US racist. That and when he favored the exploitation of workers overseas so that his standard of living in the US would increase. Also the part where he didn't know what neoliberalism was. ... 176
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@GeneralTantzu7 years ago This guy is trying to put words in Sargon's mouth CONSTANTLY, slimy. 93
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@mattbutler21456 years ago You can hear Sargon taking hits off his bowl in the middle of a debate he wins easily. Well played 4
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@pleasantturtle27996 years ago Calling Sargon bad faith was a really blow and a testament to how flustered destiny was. 8
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@TheOtherCola7 years ago It sounds like Destiny is trying to win while Sargon is trying to have a conversation. Especially with Destiny's pervasive use of loaded phrases. 105
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@TOMahawk207isawsome7 years ago When Destiny starts talking a mile a minute he reminds me of my ex 197
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@MrJonathanshammer5 years ago
"even in law the intent is irrelevant"
Okay, Destiny is actually just stupid. Does he not understand the difference between involuntary manslaughter and murder? ... 12
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@TheSilverPhoenix1007 years ago Yeah this is proof Destiny isnt some great SJW debater, its more he went after Jon who was new to the whole concept and was able to beat him soundly, the second he comes under someone who knows what hes talking about he gets buried hard ... 34
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@LuxFerre42427 years ago I find it quite shocking that people look down on tradesmen. There is nothing wrong with working in a trade and I don't think the majority of tradesmen even feel like there is or feel that working in a profession is inherently better. ... 202
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@annatardlordofderps91817 years ago Destinys immigration Plan
>Import immigrant workers to keep wages/costs low
>Price lower class workers out of job market
but hey at least the iphone will remain cheap so the newly displaced workers standard of living wont diminish
>Tax businesses that hire immigrant workers to fund the newly displaced American workers
because that wont discourage businesses from hiring immigrant workers or leave
>Pray businesses wont leave the US due to new taxes
>Pray businesses hire the now more expensive immigrant worker
>Pray the new immigrants that are now no longer desirable don't weigh down the Social safety net too much ... 80
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@swankiman7 years ago Wow. Destiny got totally owned. Jontron was low-hanging fruit for him
and maybe he thought winning his own arguments was easy after that. But
seriously, how could you think that arguing for the oppression of a
minority for the benefit of the majority was consistent with defending
minorities? He's a smart person, clearly, but it takes a really smart
person to be able to construct a defense for something so blatantly
stupid. He should invest in a book on moral philosophy. It's moral
philosophy that ended slavery and began the industrial age that gave
people iPhones (which he clearly considers to be of an importance level
that is simultaneously galling and telling at the same time).
He's
like a citizen of the Capital in Hunger Games saying that those
District 12 slaves are only a small minority who are oppressed for what
is clearly beneficial to everyone he knows and that means that it's
inherently a good thing. I'm sure slavery made things nice for people
who liked having slaves wash the clothes and plow the fields rather than
themselves.
And Destiny would probably call Trump a fascist.
The irony is lost on people who live in these sick and demented and
morally bankrupt social bubbles. My heart really goes out to them with
pity for what they are telling the world about their values with
'principles' like this and the, IMO, inevitable sadness that is coming
for them as they get older as a result of conducting themselves in
relationships for a few decades with beliefs grounded in pragmatic
coercion over moral philosophy. Pragmatic coercion, which is only
pragmatic for the oppressor, cannot produce virtue; it can only possibly
increase anti-virtue and it is virtue that leads to all positive social
behaviors, not iPhones. ... 92
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@319Schum7 years ago I'm glad I heard Destiny's point of view and arguments, because now I am more certain he is wrong. 690
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@STUPIDHUMAN7 years ago Hearing Sargon hulk out like that after being accused of not arguing in good faith is culturally influencing me to get find a construction job. 66
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@P4GYY5 years ago I'm a supporter of both Destiny and sargon, but i think sargon came out on top of this one 3
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@iamls360sterriker95 years ago Difference here: Sargon does not mind not knowing an answer; Destiny is dogmatic in his determination to validate his own opinion. 3
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@SirHat7 years ago That was amazing. I've never actually seen a man want to enslave people to make his iphone cheaper before. 347
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@floridaman38234 years ago "Marriage rates plummeted in the 70's and 80's, blacks in particular." It's easy: when labor was reorganized due to the energy crisis a high school diploma no longer provided a job that allowed an individual to provide a living for 3.4 people. ... 2
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@gingyburticus68057 years ago Whew
This debate is still hilarious months later 4

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